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		<title>By: Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not take her flying? You can hire flying lessons for both you and her. Make sure you can do it together with one in the back. True, it&#039;s not intimate, but if you&#039;re showing you&#039;re spontaneous, fun, and willing to try something new, then it&#039;s great. Plus you can go out for dinner after, talk about the experience, and both be involved in something that absolutely keeps you both outside of your comfort zone. If you pay for the flight, it&#039;s about $100, which is around what a first date is anyway. 

Worst case, you just experienced something new and can now have something to relate to with that person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not take her flying? You can hire flying lessons for both you and her. Make sure you can do it together with one in the back. True, it&#8217;s not intimate, but if you&#8217;re showing you&#8217;re spontaneous, fun, and willing to try something new, then it&#8217;s great. Plus you can go out for dinner after, talk about the experience, and both be involved in something that absolutely keeps you both outside of your comfort zone. If you pay for the flight, it&#8217;s about $100, which is around what a first date is anyway. </p>
<p>Worst case, you just experienced something new and can now have something to relate to with that person.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with coffee for a first date. I don&#039;t agree with inviting her back to your place. This says to me that a guy just wants sex. I also don&#039;t like being asked to a bar for alcoholic drinks. Guys argue that it&#039;s cheaper but it isn&#039;t and besides which most bars are so loud you can&#039;t talk. Isn&#039;t the point of dating getting to know each other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with coffee for a first date. I don&#8217;t agree with inviting her back to your place. This says to me that a guy just wants sex. I also don&#8217;t like being asked to a bar for alcoholic drinks. Guys argue that it&#8217;s cheaper but it isn&#8217;t and besides which most bars are so loud you can&#8217;t talk. Isn&#8217;t the point of dating getting to know each other?</p>
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		<title>By: monika</title>
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		<dc:creator>monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did no0t read the responses here, just the post.  Yes, dinner dates can be boring if it is not a match, but how do you find that out otherwise?

I dont know f guys like you consider, but having a woman pick you up at YOUR house is showing no respect for her physical or emotional security.  Dont you realize here are rapists and stalkers out there?  we women need to sit down and find out who you are before coming to your &quot;diggs&quot;.  I suppose your #1 goal here is to kiss, stroke her hair etc ie: make a move.  A reall gentleman would understand that is totally improper.  If that is the way you intend to go about it, expect women with no self worth coming to your door, and then you can take advantage of their vulnerabilites, or lack of self esteem.  If you want a real woman, pull up your big boy pants and treat a woman specaial and take into consideration her feeling.  Just a tip for the guys, women with their shit together would never tolate sich a low budget advance.  You cearly are tying to get laid and not lookng to get to know someone.  if that is the case, go to a bar and pick up a super drunk person and just go for it and stop pretending you are dating when your motivatons are not pure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did no0t read the responses here, just the post.  Yes, dinner dates can be boring if it is not a match, but how do you find that out otherwise?</p>
<p>I dont know f guys like you consider, but having a woman pick you up at YOUR house is showing no respect for her physical or emotional security.  Dont you realize here are rapists and stalkers out there?  we women need to sit down and find out who you are before coming to your &#8220;diggs&#8221;.  I suppose your #1 goal here is to kiss, stroke her hair etc ie: make a move.  A reall gentleman would understand that is totally improper.  If that is the way you intend to go about it, expect women with no self worth coming to your door, and then you can take advantage of their vulnerabilites, or lack of self esteem.  If you want a real woman, pull up your big boy pants and treat a woman specaial and take into consideration her feeling.  Just a tip for the guys, women with their shit together would never tolate sich a low budget advance.  You cearly are tying to get laid and not lookng to get to know someone.  if that is the case, go to a bar and pick up a super drunk person and just go for it and stop pretending you are dating when your motivatons are not pure!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of good suggestions here. Tonight I am taking a girl out to dinner date, but have questioned if it&#039;s right or not. But due to lack of options, it was what I could come up with. I live in a small coastal community that is tourist driven, so there is a lot of restaurants, and all the other little things close early because tourist season is over. The girl I am taking out works in a hospital that I bring patients into. We have had good conversations so far, with a little bit of flirting. I am having her meet me at a laid back road house with some live music for dinner, and then if we hit it off and things are going good, there is the option for a walk along a beach that is close, bowling, coffee, or ice cream. And if things go south, her car is there, and we can easily part ways.
I am recently divorced and this is my first date in close to 10 years. So tell me, is this a good idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of good suggestions here. Tonight I am taking a girl out to dinner date, but have questioned if it&#8217;s right or not. But due to lack of options, it was what I could come up with. I live in a small coastal community that is tourist driven, so there is a lot of restaurants, and all the other little things close early because tourist season is over. The girl I am taking out works in a hospital that I bring patients into. We have had good conversations so far, with a little bit of flirting. I am having her meet me at a laid back road house with some live music for dinner, and then if we hit it off and things are going good, there is the option for a walk along a beach that is close, bowling, coffee, or ice cream. And if things go south, her car is there, and we can easily part ways.<br />
I am recently divorced and this is my first date in close to 10 years. So tell me, is this a good idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  As a girl, I like dinner dates, but I would prefer something out of the ordinary.  Dinner is predictable, and unless I really hit it off with the guy, it can really become a drag.  Happy hour is also a great idea.  Personally, I wouldn&#039;t be comfortable going to a guy&#039;s house on a first date and picking him up... what have been the feedback from women whom you have used it on and what percentage was &quot;Yes&quot; to the date idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  As a girl, I like dinner dates, but I would prefer something out of the ordinary.  Dinner is predictable, and unless I really hit it off with the guy, it can really become a drag.  Happy hour is also a great idea.  Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t be comfortable going to a guy&#8217;s house on a first date and picking him up&#8230; what have been the feedback from women whom you have used it on and what percentage was &#8220;Yes&#8221; to the date idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Fix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youre a motherfucking dumbass. You sound like a broke ass creeper. why you creepin bro?</description>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 03:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a funny joke I saw about bartering and paying for dinner, http://ponderingstuff.com/2011/07/03/bartering-as-the-new-method-of-exchange-for-goods-and-services/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a funny joke I saw about bartering and paying for dinner, <a href="http://ponderingstuff.com/2011/07/03/bartering-as-the-new-method-of-exchange-for-goods-and-services/" rel="nofollow">http://ponderingstuff.com/2011/07/03/bartering-as-the-new-method-of-exchange-for-goods-and-services/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t even have to treat it as a date either just be like I am going here and u wanna come? or you should come with. 8/10 a women is going to wonder is he interested in me or not because a couple of days ago he approached me and got my number. ITS THAT MIXED SIGNALS CARD! its hard to do that with an actual dinner date. It doesn&#039;t have to be asshole either because your intentions really are to be with, but you don&#039;t let her know that. know rhat your intentions are before you start dating. is it casual dating, relationship, or just sex. What is your ideal at this point in time. This makes it easier to approach women to ask them to go out and can make you ,ore comfortable when dating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t even have to treat it as a date either just be like I am going here and u wanna come? or you should come with. 8/10 a women is going to wonder is he interested in me or not because a couple of days ago he approached me and got my number. ITS THAT MIXED SIGNALS CARD! its hard to do that with an actual dinner date. It doesn&#8217;t have to be asshole either because your intentions really are to be with, but you don&#8217;t let her know that. know rhat your intentions are before you start dating. is it casual dating, relationship, or just sex. What is your ideal at this point in time. This makes it easier to approach women to ask them to go out and can make you ,ore comfortable when dating</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dinner date does suck. its just not interesting for both parties. What works for me is a coffee shop or a walk, but often I like to change it up mid date. This allows you to gauge her and her likes but then get out of the normal conversation and go do something fun. Its spontanous! I will be sitting at a coffee shop and be like &quot;lets get out of here and go for a walk or lets go to the mall I wanted to look at something&quot; the mall or any store is great because it gives you things to talk about and interact with to make her laugh. If you gauge she has a good sense of humor and is playful. head to the toy section and just mess around. Women love a guy who is interesting and loves to have fun and laugh. You can sit at a dinner all day and say I&#039;m funny, love to laugh, and outgoing, but if you can&#039;t do those things at dinner then your screwed. I can make a girl laugh. I am just no0t the joke kind of person so i need different outlets to do so, which dinner doesn&#039;t give me.   

My girlfriend broke up with me after a year because our relationship became to boring and predictable. we just didn&#039;t fit. It wasn&#039;t for a lack of trying to make things exciting she just didn&#039;t want to do anything. all we ever did was sit around and watch movies every weekend and i did everything she ever wanted me too. BECAME THAT PUSH OVER GUY THAT NO WOMEN WANTS.In the beginning we went out a lot and had fun with others. I realize now i actually didn&#039;t like her that much either. in the end it was all sexual for me thats y i kept with it so its good we are done. That&#039;s the first time i had ever been broken up with. The other 3 times the girls wanted to be with me all the time because i kept it exciting. In the end i admit i was an asshole in the relationship but that don&#039;t matter now

WOMEN LOVE AN UNPREDICTABLE GUY! ATTRACTION ISN&#039;T A CHOICE. You can have the best job, be caring and be a great guy, but that don&#039;t matter. what are you doing to excite her. If one doesn&#039;t work out there are always more trust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dinner date does suck. its just not interesting for both parties. What works for me is a coffee shop or a walk, but often I like to change it up mid date. This allows you to gauge her and her likes but then get out of the normal conversation and go do something fun. Its spontanous! I will be sitting at a coffee shop and be like &#8220;lets get out of here and go for a walk or lets go to the mall I wanted to look at something&#8221; the mall or any store is great because it gives you things to talk about and interact with to make her laugh. If you gauge she has a good sense of humor and is playful. head to the toy section and just mess around. Women love a guy who is interesting and loves to have fun and laugh. You can sit at a dinner all day and say I&#8217;m funny, love to laugh, and outgoing, but if you can&#8217;t do those things at dinner then your screwed. I can make a girl laugh. I am just no0t the joke kind of person so i need different outlets to do so, which dinner doesn&#8217;t give me.   </p>
<p>My girlfriend broke up with me after a year because our relationship became to boring and predictable. we just didn&#8217;t fit. It wasn&#8217;t for a lack of trying to make things exciting she just didn&#8217;t want to do anything. all we ever did was sit around and watch movies every weekend and i did everything she ever wanted me too. BECAME THAT PUSH OVER GUY THAT NO WOMEN WANTS.In the beginning we went out a lot and had fun with others. I realize now i actually didn&#8217;t like her that much either. in the end it was all sexual for me thats y i kept with it so its good we are done. That&#8217;s the first time i had ever been broken up with. The other 3 times the girls wanted to be with me all the time because i kept it exciting. In the end i admit i was an asshole in the relationship but that don&#8217;t matter now</p>
<p>WOMEN LOVE AN UNPREDICTABLE GUY! ATTRACTION ISN&#8217;T A CHOICE. You can have the best job, be caring and be a great guy, but that don&#8217;t matter. what are you doing to excite her. If one doesn&#8217;t work out there are always more trust me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s nothing wrong with dinner dates...it all depends on the girl.  

also i don&#039;t get why so many people hate on movie dates.  There is before and after the movie that you can give each other attention and it helps break the ice with someone you don&#039;t know that well because you don&#039;t have to spend the whole time talking to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s nothing wrong with dinner dates&#8230;it all depends on the girl.  </p>
<p>also i don&#8217;t get why so many people hate on movie dates.  There is before and after the movie that you can give each other attention and it helps break the ice with someone you don&#8217;t know that well because you don&#8217;t have to spend the whole time talking to each other.</p>
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